The Number One Mistake to Avoid When Purchasing a New TV

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I’ve been telling my readers that since 2006, the Federal government has mandated that all TVs include a digital tuner to allow you to receive free broadcast TV using a cheap antenna. This is one of the main ways that I promote on DisableMyCable.com to save money!

But recently, I’ve been getting messages from readers who claimed that their TVs did not come with a built-in tuner! So, I looked up the specs of one of these: the Vizio E55u-D2 SmartCast E-Series 55″ Class Ultra HD Home Theater Display. Sure enough – this TV had no coax antenna input, nor did it have a tuner!!

TV vs. Display

How could this be??? The answer is that the manufacturer is not calling this a TV, but rather a “Display”. This allows them to save a few bucks and get rid of the broadcast TV tuner. I find this to be very misleading to the consumer!!!!

You Can’t Watch Free Broadcast TV

Not having a tuner on your TV means that you can’t hook an antenna up to your TV directly. You would have to purchase a tuner separately, which means you have two remote controls to mess with. All of that so that the manufacturer can save a few bucks on your TV!!!!

Watching Cable TV Could Be a Problem Too

One reader pointed out that her apartment complex offered complimentary cable distributed via coax cable.  Unfortunately, she had a Vizio TV with no coax input, so she would have to buy a cable TV box with HDMI output!! That bites!!!

Resale Value

Reader Genf113 commented that not having a tuner could also make it harder to sell later. Let’s face it, TV technology is changing so fast that you just might not want to keep it forever. Not having a tuner could make it that much harder to unload, especially given the rate that people are cutting cable TV. This alone is a valid reason to get a TV with a tuner, even if you don’t use it.

The Manufacturer’s Explanation

Here’s what Vizio’s website says about this:

The VIZIO SmartCast™ E-Series Ultra HD Home Theater Display is now tuner-free. Most households commonly stream or watch live TV from cable and satellite boxes – neither of which requires a tuner, so you shouldn’t notice any differences in setup.

Now if you use an external antenna to watch free local channels, you will need to get a separate tuner adapter to connect your antenna to your display.

Everything they say here is true, but this statement is buried way down on their site. If you look on Amazon, it’s really hard to tell that this “TV” has no tuner!

Plus, few people will know to look for this. Ever since TV’s first came out, they included a tuner which allowed you to connect antennas to them.  Now all of a sudden, some don’t!

Heck, I bet most people don’t even know what “tuner-free” means!

How to Avoid this Pitfall

Here are some tips to help you be sure you’re getting a TV with a tuner included:

  • Make sure the word “TV” is in the product title, as opposed to “Display”, “Home Theater Display”, or “Monitor”. TVs must contain a broadcast TV tuner, by Federal law!
  • In the TV specs, make sure it has an antenna, “RF”, coax, or cable TV input. Note, not all TVs with this input will list it. So, if you see this input, you’re good. If you don’t see it, you may or may not be good.
  • Find a photo of the TV’s rear panel (Amazon sometimes has these) and make sure it has the coax round connector like the one shown here:
    TV coax inputNote that you are looking for a single round connector, not the set of two or more colored round connectors
  • Be extra careful when purchasing a Vizio-branded TV.

What to Do If You Already Have a TV with No Tuner

As I’ve mentioned, if you already own one of these “displays”, you can purchase a TV tuner separately. This gets a little complicated because you have to make sure that you get a TV tuner that is high-definition and includes an HDMI output. Here are some I recommend:

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The other bummer is that now you’ll have yet another remote control in your pile of remotes on your coffee table. That’s why having the tuner integrated into the TV is so much better.

If you want broadcast TV DVR capabilities and are willing to spend more money, then you can go with a Channel Master DVR+ or Tablo if you have more than one TV.

To Sum Up

I really hope other manufacturers don’t expand the practice of selling TVs without tuners. I find this practice misleading and greedy, because it only costs the manufacturer a few dollars to put in a tuner, whereas it costs you up to fifty dollars to buy one!

Some commenters have said that they don’t want to pay this cost and don’t want a tuner in their TVs because they have cable.  That is valid.  My beef is that the manufacturers are making it so hard to tell the difference between TVs with and without tuners that many consumers don’t understand what they are missing!

Also, you never know when you might want to ditch cable.  Isn’t it good to have the option of using an antenna?

If you see any other brands doing this, please let us know in the comments below! Thanks! – Brian

  • genef113

    What is the selling price difference between a HDTV and a monitor? Unless the difference is significant I would always go with the HDTV even if I don’t use the tuner (which I don’t). You may want to sell the thing someday and having a tuner just makes it attractive to a wider audience.

    • Hi Genef113,

      You bring up a great point about resale value (which I will add to the article). And, you ask a great question about the price difference between having a tuner and not.

      I was not able to find an apples-to-apples example of a Vizio “display” with the same specs as a Vizio TV except for the tuner.

      So, I took a different approach to answer the question, which is to take a look at the cost of stand-alone tuners. The cheapest one I found was from Walmart for $20. But this includes a lot of extraneous stuff that wouldn’t add cost to the TV, such as power supply, enclosure, packaging, etc. So, my guess is that the end cost to the consumer of adding a digital tuner to the TV is around $10 (cost to the manufacturer is a few dollars I’m guessing).

      Anyone else find a better estimate?

      Thanks again for your great question and comment!

      Best,
      Brian

  • jedge44

    I got the vizio without the tuner. Oddly enough the remote has channel buttons!!! Its BS. Now your article says you recommend the following: but it just shows adds for current products!! Some will not work for this situation (1 is digital to analog converter(will not work) and another is just a tuner (will not work without an antenna))!! Thus your whole article is trash and sponsored by Amazon (the only products linked are via Amazon.. So hard to get real reviews and answers on-lione now as they are all bot adds for something else.

    • Hi Jedge44,

      Most of the converter boxes I recommend need an antenna sold separately. Usually the ones that come with them aren’t that good.

      You’re correct in saying the first one has analog out only. I’ve corrected the search parameters to choose Homeworx converters, all of which have HDMI output. Thanks for catching that.

      I do get affiliate income from Amazon, which helps me pay for hosting and maintaining this site. Sorry you don’t find the article useful.

      Best,
      Brian

  • unlv702

    Most people are now ditching cable and using online streaming and, alternatively, using antenna connections for basic free tv. Cut the Cord!

  • ppiuq

    I own a 50 inch Vizio smart tv with a tuner and I receive about 50 OTA channels which I combine with streaming services, but I’m presently looking to purchase a 65 inch 4k for Christmas and I can assure you it won’t be a Vizio! This move by Vizio has US cable companies hands all over it, Vizio need to look no further than the Blackberry and Verizon to see what happens when you dance with the devil. I’m through with Vizio!

  • The Magic Christian

    I can’t remember the last time I used the tuner on my tv. I just stream OTA channels now. Much better.

  • Terry Proveau

    Visio are not on my list because of no tuner built in. I use an Nvidia shield tv for streaming and a built in tuner for local programming. I do not want a separate tuner box.

  • Stephan Paquin

    okay so what do i do if i get cable through a wall outlet and no coax connection on my TV, no cable box either

    • Hi Stephan,

      How is the cable TV signal getting to your TV?

      Does your TV have an antenna input?

      Brian

      • Stephan Paquin

        i haven’t connected my cable because i don’t have antenna or cable connection on it, i only have usb, and HDMI but my cable comes through the wall with no cable box

        • Hi Stephan,

          It sounds like your TV does not have a built-in tuner, unfortunately. You’ll need to get some sort of converter box from your cable company, or a new TV. There might be third-party converter boxes available as well.

          Best,
          Brian

  • candy fuller

    Yes I live in Portland Oregon and I have a skyworth 13″ TV no cable I w can I watch TV get channels

  • fstlane

    So I’ve just read all the pros and cons of buying a “tunerless” tv/display in this thread. While I certainly agree there could be better marketing information by the manufacturers, the reason “tunerless” are offered is for those who DO pay for their cable or satellite connections and do so to avoid all the techy problems that have been discussed in the thread below and are not interested in cutting the cable. If I just want to connect my coax cable to the tv and watch my shows, there is no need for a tuner, so allow me that option at a very reasonable price. (btw. retail prices are definitely more than $100 for a tv with tuner)
    As for the Vizio bashing, I’ve had a Vizio for about 5-6 years, the color still crisp and clear and never a problem (knock on wood!) I also have a Samsung 50″ Plasma that I have replaced the power supply board twice, that isn’t have as good as my Vizio. Now I am helping an older friend find a tv. He is dead set on keeping his Cox cable account, so regardless how much programming is or is not yet available in 4K, IF he is satisfied with the picture, the sound, and the ease of transferring to Netflix, Amazon etc, he should be a happy camper with a “tunerless” tv unless I’m missing something big here!
    As for me personally, I plan to disconnect my Cox cable account and use Apple TV. fortunately my current TV does have a tuner, but upsizing is in the near future. so I will decide whether to buy with or without a tuner when that time comes.
    I do appreciate the contributions on this site, some good information!

  • Thomas J

    I always research any electronics very thoroughly. Now I found the Vizio 4k display at best buy at a very reasonable price considering 4K UHD TV’S cost 2 to 3 times more a year or so before purchasing this Vizio E series and knew there was no turner which I have no need for whatsoever. I’m buying a 4K TV and more often than not you are buying something so high tech it’s normal for a person like myself to want 4K content henceforth running an HDMI cable into the TV/Display that’s coming from a source with cable, DirecTV, Xbox One S etc.
    It makes no sense to even buy a 4K TV if you plan on using an antenna from 1960 as a matter of fact there probably will never be in antenna that gets broadcast with 4K capabilities if they ever knew it’ll be a decade or more, even using a coaxial cable through your cable box War directly from The Wire coming out of the wall you can’t get 4k through this way either.
    I don’t understand why somebody would just buy a 4K TV because it has a better picture it’s almost common sense to do research on this new technology and how are you going to get this technology on to your 4K TV.
    I’m very happy with my purchase with Vizio and I’ve been using Vizio TVs the last seven or eight years and I’ve never had any problems with their equipment.
    So let’s get to the point don’t buy a 4K TV if you do not have anything to broadcast with the 4K TV to get a 4K picture on your new ultra high definition TV or display whatever you want to call it, means TVs don’t even come with an actual remote that can control everything on the TV your smartphone is going to be your remote control on these E series Vizio 4K TVs which is great in my opinion because you can Chromecast with YouTube Vudu and a few other apps that actually have real 4K broadcasting to your TV via WiFi, Vizio calls this app SmartCast(ios and android versions are both compatible with this Vizio TV it’s really a remote control and also accesses all the apps that have Chromecast capability and you only have to open the smart Cast app to access the apps to play on your 4K TV or let’s just cause it display because that’s what it is.
    I found this new way of having your smartphone act as the remote control for my display a great feature it’s very user-friendly in my experience it works very well I’ve not had any issues with the app like some other apps where it’s crashing constantly you’re doesn’t play right etc also you can only change the picture setting name your input settings and all that other good stuff that a normal remote control for a TV would do but the SmartCast app for my smartphone can actually do more than any remote control I’ve ever seen, it’s actually pretty neat feature if you ask me because we all lose our remote controls constantly and when your smartphone is the remote control well these days people have a phone in their hand more often than not so it’s highly unlikely your lose your smartphone compared to having a regular remote control.
    If you are interested and getting a 4K ultra high definition display I highly recommend this Vizio E-Series I got the 55-inch 4 $499 plus tax and it is the best TV I’ve ever owned I would assume the price is lower than 499 right now considering I bought this back in December. I have seen 4K 50 inch TVs for 200$ this was some off-brand which I would never by myself but it just shows how far we’ve come since 4K first came out and it was 2 or $3,000 to buy a 50 inch or bigger TV, when Ishopping for a new TV I saw a Roku TV 50 inch for $375 which was a quality TV but it focused more on that app because Roku has a lot of them in the Vizio TV focus more on the picture hint no tuner your phone is a remote control and things of that nature which let’s Vizio cell their displays for cheaper. DirecTV even upgraded my equipment for free because they do have a few 4K channels and plenty of movies that you can rent in 4k or buy. In the future DirecTV will start adding more 4K channels considering starting to get more popular but I basically have one channel that shows different content 24 hours a day and the picture on this channel is so amazing I watch TV shows that I’d never watch for a minute but when you have a picture like this it just makes me want to watch it it’s entertaining to watch any kind of show that before I had this display wouldn’t had any interest in I’ve had this tv eight months now and it still amazes me when I play a 4K Blu-ray through my Xbox One S or through Vudu app and now Amazon Prime streaming service has 4K content as well but only through the Xbox One S at this time. Best TVs this 4K TVs that is look great when you see him on display in Target or Best Buy but when you get home and you get them in a dark setting it looks even better just lights and IMAX theatre would look like but this one is in the comfort of your own home, thanks for reading my input I hope I can be of some help to at least one person so I wasn’t wasting my time writing all this but like I said in my opinion if you are into getting the best picture possible go out and buy a 4K TV it’s very affordable as I said before.
    Take care, sincerely Thomas J

    • Hi Thomas,

      Thank you for sharing your tips and insights!!

      Best,
      Brian

    • Larsen Scott

      Do you breath when you write? Geez, learn how to use colons and periods to make decent length sentences!

      • Lydia Reyes

        OMG?!!????

  • Barry

    Wish I had read this post several months ago before the Sams club guy sold me visio’s next best thing. After reading this I looked at the box and sure enough it’s a monitor, not a tv . Got suckered this time.

    • Hi Barry, sorry to hear that. :-(

      Best,
      Brian

  • Bill Eastman

    See this on Vizio’s site
    https://www.vizio.com/tuner-free

  • paltel

    My TV just broke… I will be not be considering a Vizio because it lacks a television tuner for ota broadcasts. Concealing the lack of a tuner with weasel words will cause me to never even consider Vizio in the future…

  • Rick Daniels

    Vizio E-Series they could easily put on their box TV Tuner sold separately but they intentionally don’t. They also won’t allow you to finish their initial download without you excepting to allow them to gather your viewing habits.

  • Richard Marcoux III

    if it costs manufacturer $1 to install a tuner it will end up costing them actually millions per year. TV manufacturers produce millions of TV’s /year. $1 x 2,000,000 = $2,000,000/year spent on tuners. That’s a waste since it’s $2,000,000 spent for something that never gets used by anyone (maybe 0.001% of TV owners). whereas if the individual wanted a tuner, they just pay $50 for it. In the eyes of the manufacturer; “the consumer can spend just $50 instead of us having to waste millions of dollars”. it just makes good common economic sense. However, they are still breaking the law, and are being extremely misleading, are are open to a law suit.

    • Jhon rodgers

      Your numbers are way off…. Far more than 1% access broadcast stations using tuners! You are dismissing the silent rural majority. Try upwards of 65% hero.

      • Richard Marcoux III

        Hero? Lol. Anyways, The percentage is irrelevant to my central point. It would cost manufacturer millions of dollars a year or just consumers $50 more dollars for a separate tuner. It makes zero economic sense for the manufacturer. It’s a very reasonable trade-off… Save millions but exclude a tuner that can be bought by people that want them. if you yourself were running a business like this, the decision would be clear to make. If not then at least you can understand the decision. Companies don’t owe consumers anything. You don’t like their product don’t buy it…. Free market will solve the problem. Over regulating companies is bad for the economy and consumers.

        • Dani EL

          It creates an awful experience for those buying a tuner. Yet another remote, different interface for the TV side. And of course people will vote with their wallets, and won’t buy one if they don’t like it. That doesn’t mean we can’t vent our frustration here.

      • Dani EL

        and people who do not want to flush money down the cable each month.

    • heavyset0223

      Then they should up the price of the TV by $1 to cover the cost.

  • SOlidWire

    Options are what makes a great market economy! Something for everyone. I was able to a 70″ 4K 120Hz Vizio for $699. The next best deal was TWICE that much. No tuner… So What?.. one less thing to break… especially when you can pickup up a decent quality one for under $50. Heck, you can now justify setting up a networked tuner that will work on all your electronics with a screen. I really like SiliconDust’s HD Home Run Connect which retails for under $95.00. Oh yea… too many remotes bothering you… Might as well add an “all in one remote”. I like the Logitech – Harmony 650. You can pick one up for under $50. While were at it… If you live in a more rural setting you may want to considering upgrading that plastic indoor antenna to a roof/ attic mount. Good quality antenna and a 100′ roll of cable should do it…. for under $100.
    Let me sum this up… we saved, very conservatively, $700 on our 70″ screen. Spent a $100 on a quality tuner which is now ready to use on any device in the house. Spent $50 on one of the best “all in one” remotes. And… if needed… $100 on the best antenna setup. Now you have the best of everything and your AT LEAST $500 ahead of the game.
    Inform is great. but don’t bitch about a great thing.
    Heck… if I could have it my way. I’d buy just the monitor with an HDMI in and out. I’d much rather add the components ala carte. Now your almost married to a “smart” tv who’s software you probably wont like anyway. I dont want to pay for that. When I want to try Roku… great! Apple TV…. great…
    Question… Why are you advocating people pay for all of these components they don’t necessarily need or want… And to top it off when one of those internal components fails… Generally, the whole unit becomes unuseable.
    Sorry to have gone off on a rant… Yet back to my first statement…. There is nothing more exciting than a market driven economy,,, The only catch is the same old saying… Buyer be ware!
    Rock On
    SOlid Wire out!

    • HI SolidWire,

      Thanks for sharing!

      You seem like quite a tech-savvy consumer. Many of my readers are not. Many are retired folks who would have trouble hooking up a VCR (I count my parents among this group). So having the tuner built in eliminates the hookup problem, which is actually a problem for a lot of people.

      My second beef is that there are many unsuspecting consumers who don’t know what “tuner-free” means. They buy a TV thinking they can use it with an antenna and they can’t. Sure, I know, it’s technically their fault for not reading and understanding the terms, right? But that’s part of the reason I wrote this article – to help educate people on what to look for so they won’t be disappointed when they go home and try to hook up an antenna.

      Best,
      Brian

      • SOlidWire

        Your a good soul. World surly needs more of those. Educating, as you clearly are, is truly the best medicine. I also advocate for anyone who is being taken advantage of.particularly in an unscrupulous manner, and especially our older folks.
        Maybe… just maybe… consider the attack from the other side…. As opposed to researching the legal means to implement another (law, ruling /guide line) by the ruling authority, the FCC, I assume. Consider confronting the beast…. the manufacture’s (even if in name only) marketing department.
        Nobody wins when the customer doesn’t get what they paid for. They are going to return the item with great pains (after all your not carrying or shipping back a shirt). The customer now has disdain for the manufactures label. The reseller now (at best) has an open box item which they wont get as much for will lose the sale of a new item.The customer in turn is going to mf that manufactures label with amplification to friends, neighbors and anyone who will listen. (probably like minded people). As it seems human nature to share a painful experience more than a positive one. (Hence this blog)

        Secondly, everyone wins when they advertise the product as it was intended to be used for. Those looking for a built in tuner get what they want, reseller/ manufacture places another product and another happy customer who shows off their new device to friends and neighbors (often like minded) and other ones are sold. On the other hand those who want the quality features of a sttipped down item to use as they please… They get what they want with clear and honest effective marketing. Kindly, remind our manufacturing friends that there are more and more of those “tech savvy” coming to market every day.

        Thirdly, and quite possibly most importantly, is that we all need fewer laws/ rules on the books. A democratic republic with a free market economy needs to be guided with the least amount of laws and rules to maintain that freedom. Seems every law/rule is implemented with “good intentions” then (not far down the road) some slickster goes and interprets that law/ruling in a way which steels just one more of our freedoms. Seems every American (unintentionally) breaks 2 or 3 laws/rules before they finish their morning coffee.

        In a nut shell. Your providing a great service by educating. Thank You! Yet I will leave you with two old school adages to summarize. First, You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. Second Good intentions lead they path to hell. or maybe better said. No good intention goes unpunished.
        All the Best to you and yours
        SOlidWire

        • SOlidWire

          A BTW… Kind of funny… Off topic…. The adage… “You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.”.. Is untrue! Observations have been made that you actually attract more fruit flies with vinegar than honey, because the acetic acid in vinegar makes them think they sense fruit.

    • Richard Marcoux III

      exactly, the free market is the best system, and will take care of everything.

  • Al Newman

    Do you think the manufacturers don’t get a kickback for promoting Netflix, other pay services, and even YouTube (printed on the packaging box & displayed on boot-up)?? Would it then be logical to suspect that they get an even bigger kickback in exchange for producing product that blocks free terrestrial broadcasts, forcing consumers into pay services??

    • Hi Al,

      Yes, I do believe that manufacturers have agreements with pay services to get a piece of the pie.

      However, interfering with TV broadcasts is actually against the law. All electronic products need to be FCC certified to NOT interfere with TV and other broadcasts. So, I don’t think it’s common for products to interfere with terrestrial broadcasts, but it could happen unintentionally.

      Best,
      Brian

      • Al Newman

        By “blocking” OTA reception, I meant producing a “TV” that deceptively does not have an ATSC tuner. Many people get caught by this clever rouse.

        • Ah yes, sorry, completely agree!

          Best,
          Brian

  • Larry Inman

    Can you point me towards where to find the “mandate” that says all TV’s need a tuner to be called a TV. I have a distributer from ebay telling me I’m wrong.

    • Hi Larry,

      This is the closest thing I found, see the second section, which states: “The Commission’s digital tuner rule specifies that as of March 1, 2007 all new television receivers must include digital tuners.”
      https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/dtv-enforcement

      I suppose one could get around this by saying their product is not a television receiver.

      Best,
      Brian

      • Larry Inman

        Thanks Brian. I found the law on the FCC website. Vizio is getting away with this by saying their TV’s are “Displays”. So they’re not subject to the TV tuner law. A little shady.

        • Oh, glad you found it.

          Yeah, I hate what Vizio is doing here.

          Brian

    • SOlidWire

      They don’t market them as TV’s (at least as far as my research has taken me) They are marketed as Home Theater Display’s. By the logic your advocating every monitor or projector should have a tuner built in.